Author Topic: Transfer Pigeon Planner data from Desktop/Laptop PC to Android Tablet/Smartphone  (Read 72 times)

Offline clipper

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I first mentioned this project on this forum just over 3 years ago but due to  work commitments I wasn't able to make much progress.

The intention is to transfer pigeon details that have been input using Pigeon Planner  (Pedigrees, Breeding, Results, Medication, photos etc) for viewing on their Android tablet or Smartphone.

I've now got more time to work on the project. If there is any interest from users of Pigeon Planner, I'd be pleased to hear from you. In particular, those users that would be prepared to let  me have some sample data to work with.

Please contact me via Personal Message if you prefer.

Thanks

clipper

Offline ArcherPigeons

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YES PLEASE!

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Archerpigeons, Warnerions and others have suggested  some very useful  improvements/new features for  Pigeon Planner.
I hope to include some of them  in my Android app.

Further suggestions welcome!

Steve

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I believe it would be best to create an android version of Pigeon Planner (and work with TIMO as a collaborator) rather than a standalone app. It would be amazing if there was some mechanism for a cloud based live updating too, either locally hosted or using Google/Dropbox/Amazon/something.

For me, the two main features I'm keen for are (1) highlighting the inbreeding in pedigrees, and (2) extended pedigrees going back many many many generations
« Last Edit: January 21, 2019, 01:29:28 by ArcherPigeons »

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You are of course free to build a mobile app. Pigeon Planner uses SQLite as the database backend so it should be easy to work with (inspecting the scheme etc).

Just don't name it Pigeon Planner, apparently someone else already did this for Android without my permission and people think it's an official app.

A mobile app is constantly on my mind as well, but there are so many more things that can/should be done first on the desktop version that it keeps getting pushed back.

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First of all, let me say that I had no intention of naming my app ‘Pigeon Planner’ or anything like it.

I’ve developed Windows database applications professionally since 1987 and am quite familiar with most commercial database formats.  I started writing custom pigeon software for PC’s -Fed and club race results programs and loft management software for studs and fanciers from about 1989.
 
I now concentrate on developing mainly custom cloud based Android apps for small businesses.

I thought users of desktop loft management software might like to have a VIEW ONLY app on their Android mobile devices so that they could view their pigeon details – pedigrees, medication, race history etc. whenever they want and wherever they are.  To add the ability to add/edit records for different loft management applications would require too much of my time.

A version for Pigeon Planner users was to be the first version of my Android app. However, the response from users on this forum has been disappointing and there seems to be little point in me spending time developing a Pigeon Planner version.


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I'm more than happy to help you Clipper, you're free to use my database for testing.

I do think it would be a mistake to fragment it from pigeon planner though, I believe we would all be better off if we had multiple developers working on one overarching project (ie, PigeonPlanner on multiple platforms, and cloud based support for multiple devices). Splitting it up just means that we'll end up with multiple products with smaller and smaller userbases.

Don't get disheartened by the forum - after all this is a very niche product, and most pigeon breeders are in the older age brackets and don't know a single thing about open source software. The userbase isn't huge here to start with, so the proportion using the forum are even smaller.

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I see your point regarding having Pigeon Planner on multiple platforms. However, at the moment, I cannot commit the time that would be required to develop an app that includes add/edit records.

If you are happy to help with the trialling of a view only version, I will continue developing the app for Pigeon Planner. Maybe in the future I might consider an editable version.

From your previous posts, I see that you would like to include pedigrees for trial pairings and inbreeding indicators etc.  Most of my custom Windows based loft management applications have included these features and I intended including them in the Android app.

Thanks for your offer of the use of your database. This would be most welcome as it would be more realistic than using the computer generated database that I’ve created. I promise that your database will be used only for testing and not shared with anyone.

If you’re happy to help with the trial, please send me a personal message and I will send you my email address so you can let me  have a copy of your database.



« Last Edit: January 23, 2019, 19:08:58 by clipper »

Offline ArcherPigeons

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Thanks Clipper, I've messaged you - happy to help out.

I'm sure Timo would welcome contributions to the Windows software as well, there are always suggestions and improvements that could be made and more helpers makes the burden lighter. Perhaps some of your older custom code could be implemented in PigeonPlanner Windows? :)